I found this post at iWeb Tool (iWEBTOOL Talk - View Single Post - What is the future of this forum? Death!), I think it can be used as a lesson for other forums ....... ------------------------------------------------------ I have tried....I have worked my heart out. I no longer wonder why the owner of this site gave up on the forum. I left in June...I was working 16+ hours every day over the summer months...I didn't get on the internet so much as to touch an email...I didn't come to iwebtool....I didn't go to my own sites, except in July, when I sold them. I've really worked my ass off trying to get this forum back in shape..I've left hundreds of clues...Still yet, most of the members here still like to be post whores...For some reason, the good posters here are only good because they aren't spamming...Instead, they are post whoring by posting non-stop in the introduction forum, yet fail to see the importance of submitting relevant intelligent posts. I deleted all of the posts for the previous 6 months in the introduction forums to see who's post count's would suffer the most...Mine suffered, I lost over 100 posts...But I have nearly 4500 posts in less than 2 years...I saw some members lose 300 posts out of 800 posts.... On top of that, 99% of the members here are here to advertise their site. There is no community in this forum...Why? because there is no need. I want there to be a community, and about 3 or 4 other members want there to be a community...But the other 8,000 plus members, they want to advertise to us. It's spam.... I see so often a member with 11 posts asking for a website review...Bull shit.... You don't want a review..You want a link. Go away. It becomes obvious when someone actually gives your crappy site a review. It saddens me to know that members of this forum really don't recognize the effort I've put into this place. I've never been paid to be here. Yet still...I am here. I've never been compensated in any way shape or form....Yet, still...I am here....I continue to hear how crappy this forum has become...Yet noone wants to try to take the reigns and get it up to speed...Because it's not possible...This forum died in June. Maybe it's my fault...Maybe not.. I don't know...But I know that I get blamed a lot more than the people who really screws up the forum, the 99.9% of the members here that continue to try to advertise their site. Maybe I should just discontinue the use of links in the forum....That would drive away the members that are only here for a link, and maybe there would be 2 or 3 of us left to actually try to build a community..What do you think?